Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - Tea Pets

How is everybody doing, Happy Tuesday? I'm having a happy Tuesday? I'm coming at you today as a turtle, a tea pettoday as a turtle, a tea of sorts on Instagram. if you're sorts on Instagram. if you're watching, I'm coming in as a watching, I'm coming in as a bunny rabbit, but today, just bunny rabbit, but today, just having a little fun with this having a little fun with this puppets and decided that I'm puppets and decided that I'm gonna come at you as a tea pet. gonna come at you as a tea pet. so I know you're used to seeing so I know you're used to seeing me sitting behind this tea tree me sitting behind this tea tree but. I am sitting on the tray but. I am sitting on the tray in solidarity with my tea, my in solidarity with my tea, my tea pet friends here so you can tea pet friends here so you can see my friends here. We've got see my friends here. We've got a Bitcoin the dog tea-pot made a Bitcoin the dog tea-pot made by my good friends, Marie and by my good friends, Marie and Patrick at not made in China Patrick at not made in China and Albuquerque, New Mexico. And also on both sides here. You can see that I am standing You can see that I am standing alongside my other two tea alongside my other two tea pets. Yay. Yay. the two persimmons which were the two persimmons which were gifted to me by to tease gifted to me by to tease friends from Los Angeles. they friends from Los Angeles. they gifted me this two really great gifted me this two really great one here and then. Other one on one here and then. Other one on the other side these really the other side these really great beautiful cute little great beautiful cute little persimmons. Everybody's always persimmons. Everybody's always confused about what those are confused about what those are those are in fact, tiny little those are in fact, tiny little ceramic persimmons and then ceramic persimmons and then just to my side here. That is just to my side here. That is my bacon rock. Some people say my bacon rock. Some people say it's petrified bacon, but it's it's petrified bacon, but it's actually just a quartz rock. So actually just a quartz rock. So where I found this. China there was this really China there was this really incredible. yes. Eric. I'm a incredible. yes. Eric. I'm a turtle today if you have a turtle today if you have a problem with that, you'll just problem with that, you'll just have to take it up with Bitcoin have to take it up with Bitcoin because Bitcoin likes it so so yeah, I just wanted to so so yeah, I just wanted to have a little fun today and have a little fun today and talk about tea pets and you talk about tea pets and you know if you've watched my know if you've watched my videos before or if you've had videos before or if you've had tea at my tea-table before you tea at my tea-table before you might have wondered. The heck might have wondered. The heck this little pets were sitting this little pets were sitting on my tea tree and I wanna talk on my tea tree and I wanna talk about that. so yeah all of the about that. so yeah all of the pets here that I've talked pets here that I've talked about are actually not the about are actually not the traditional style of tea pets traditional style of tea pets and this is something to test and this is something to test to. American Tea culture That's to. American Tea culture That's it is a very unique thing. It's it is a very unique thing. It's addressing and respecting the addressing and respecting the traditions of. Of tea of Chinese style of tea Of tea of Chinese style of tea or Japanese style tea or Korean or Japanese style tea or Korean style of tea, but taking on style of tea, but taking on it's a whole new form. Who did you convince Eric to Who did you convince Eric to make to make a teapot for you? make to make a teapot for you? are they are they potters are are they are they potters are theys I'd love to see the theys I'd love to see the results of tea Patrick and Marie the the the Patrick and Marie the the the the couple that made the the couple that made the Bitcoin tea padd over there. Bitcoin tea padd over there. here let me go stand next to here let me go stand next to the stand next to him. Is that the stand next to him. Is that mean? Yep? that's me I'll go mean? Yep? that's me I'll go closer. Hey, what's going on buddy? Hey, what's going on buddy? let's see if I can pet him. Hi Bitcoin, His ears fell off. Hi Bitcoin, His ears fell off. I'm getting a little bit better I'm getting a little bit better at moving around at this thing. at moving around at this thing. Of course, I am standing on top Of course, I am standing on top of the Persimmon now, but of the Persimmon now, but that's okay no harm. Make up that's okay no harm. Make up artist Oh, you had a friend artist Oh, you had a friend paint you as a turtle. Well, paint you as a turtle. Well, that's cool. no paint was used that's cool. no paint was used in this product. this process in this product. this process only only. technology see only only. technology see there, we go see it easily move there, we go see it easily move over. It's kind of like a over. It's kind of like a sideways Moon walking and I sideways Moon walking and I just did so yeah, these are not just did so yeah, these are not the traditional style of tea the traditional style of tea pets. They are very American pets. They are very American style of tea, pets and tea pets style of tea, pets and tea pets have become really popular and have become really popular and American tea culture but they American tea culture but they actually have a long history in actually have a long history in China. Hi Alison, you have a China. Hi Alison, you have a Tiger and a three leg pig. Good Tiger and a three leg pig. Good luck for three like I've never luck for three like I've never heard of that, but that's heard of that, but that's interesting. Where did you get interesting. Where did you get your tea pets? I'd love to hear that. So, yeah, like I was saying tea So, yeah, like I was saying tea pets have a long history in pets have a long history in China and I was actually really China and I was actually really surprised by that because I surprised by that because I assumed that tea pets were a assumed that tea pets were a more modern fascination around more modern fascination around the culture in China but the culture in China but actually they're you know actually they're you know several different accounts of several different accounts of yeah. Hi. I'm a turtle. I'm a yeah. Hi. I'm a turtle. I'm a tea pet. sorry, I just had to tea pet. sorry, I just had to introduce myself and describe introduce myself and describe who I am. A viewer on who I am. A viewer on Periscope, Yes, I'm talking Periscope, Yes, I'm talking about teas and there is several about teas and there is several different accounts of when tea pets started who when tea pets started who invented them what type of clay invented them what type of clay was used for them. What were was used for them. What were their purposes but I'm just their purposes but I'm just going to generalize all those going to generalize all those different accounts and just say different accounts and just say that they're from maybe 1200 that they're from maybe 1200 the year 1200. or you know in the year 1200. or you know in the thirteenth century so the thirteenth century so that's actually a long time and that's actually a long time and originally we're made with the originally we're made with the clay and would be seasoned just clay and would be seasoned just like your unglazed the sheen like your unglazed the sheen tea wear and they can represent tea wear and they can represent good luck often times the good luck often times the figurines that the artist would figurines that the artist would make into tea pets are zodiac. make into tea pets are zodiac. Signs or other signs of good Signs or other signs of good luck, just like Alice and our luck, just like Alice and our friend on Facebook, said she friend on Facebook, said she has a three -legged pig that has a three -legged pig that symbolizes good luck so a lot symbolizes good luck so a lot of the tea pets Hi Jake, a lot of the tea pets Hi Jake, a lot of the tea pets are different of the tea pets are different symbols of luck and so yeah symbols of luck and so yeah pigs usually represent fortune. pigs usually represent fortune. so those are all are also very so those are all are also very common tea pets that you'll see common tea pets that you'll see out there the tea pets on my. out there the tea pets on my. Don't really represent that Don't really represent that these are things that are these are things that are important to me and that I like important to me and that I like to keep around but the you know to keep around but the you know kind of the symbolism of having kind of the symbolism of having that that teapot on your tray that that teapot on your tray is as you season them with your is as you season them with your journey and drinking different journey and drinking different teas. Then you are integrating teas. Then you are integrating those good luck symbols into those good luck symbols into your life and into your your life and into your practice of tea as well so This practice of tea as well so This this Bitcoin, a teapot over this Bitcoin, a teapot over here has been drinking tea with here has been drinking tea with me for a long time. Let me just me for a long time. Let me just go closer and I just give them go closer and I just give them another pet. Oh, he's so nice. another pet. Oh, he's so nice. I like his ears. He's a little I like his ears. He's a little ears fell off. It's so sad. ears fell off. It's so sad. It's so sad his little his It's so sad his little his little ears came off as well as little ears came off as well as his tail. so unfortunately, you his tail. so unfortunately, you know this this tea-pot hasn't know this this tea-pot hasn't lasted, but I have several lasted, but I have several others that have lasted for a others that have lasted for a long time and just like season. long time and just like season. Your other tea wear it will Your other tea wear it will turn color and you know even turn color and you know even kind of just change. It's whole kind of just change. It's whole energy over time as you're energy over time as you're drinking all these different drinking all these different teas throughout your tea teas throughout your tea journey. So yeah, that's just a journey. So yeah, that's just a little bit on tea pets. there little bit on tea pets. there are several different cool are several different cool ones. even in Chinese culture ones. even in Chinese culture I've seen some that are I've seen some that are reactive to temperature change reactive to temperature change Change color So that's kind of Change color So that's kind of fun. so if you pour the hot fun. so if you pour the hot water on them, they might water on them, they might change from Brown to Green or change from Brown to Green or purple or whatever color it is purple or whatever color it is and then the really fun one and then the really fun one which I demonstrate for you which I demonstrate for you right here, but I think it'd be right here, but I think it'd be kind of improper and indecent kind of improper and indecent but the other one is called the but the other one is called the P P boy and these are these are P P boy and these are these are fun little hollow tea pets that fun little hollow tea pets that are usually shaped as a little are usually shaped as a little boy or. Figures I've seen as boy or. Figures I've seen as well. where when you get the well. where when you get the clay Super cold, a very cold, clay Super cold, a very cold, either. There's some merging it either. There's some merging it in ice water or just getting it in ice water or just getting it cold and then or was it you cold and then or was it you submit it and are you a somers submit it and are you a somers it in hot water and then cold it in hot water and then cold water and then whenever you water and then whenever you pour boiling water on top of pour boiling water on top of it. there's some pressure it. there's some pressure inside that force. Is the hot inside that force. Is the hot water to spray out? so it looks water to spray out? so it looks like it's you know peeing like it's you know peeing across the tree. Those are just across the tree. Those are just fun ones. I don't think those fun ones. I don't think those are really the traditional the are really the traditional the traditional style of of tea traditional style of of tea pets, but they're just fun and pets, but they're just fun and really they are just for fun. really they are just for fun. Just like me standing here as a Just like me standing here as a turtle as a cartoon or as a turtle as a cartoon or as a rabbit here on Instagram, it's rabbit here on Instagram, it's just for fun and you know kind just for fun and you know kind of bring some. And some of bring some. And some joyfulness to your practice so joyfulness to your practice so if you've been on the fence if you've been on the fence about wanting to bring a teapot about wanting to bring a teapot into your tea practice, I'd into your tea practice, I'd like to encourage you to think like to encourage you to think about it and maybe find about it and maybe find something that doesn't something that doesn't necessarily have to be aching necessarily have to be aching or a, you know Chinese clay or a, you know Chinese clay tea-pot it could be anything it tea-pot it could be anything it could be even like this. Courts Bacon rock that I like Courts Bacon rock that I like to keep on my tray. I'm a big to keep on my tray. I'm a big fan of pork and bacon and all fan of pork and bacon and all things pork. related. So when I things pork. related. So when I saw this little piece of bacon saw this little piece of bacon shaped courts, I had to I had shaped courts, I had to I had to bring it to my tea tray and to bring it to my tea tray and kinda spice up my tea practice. kinda spice up my tea practice. So yeah, I've been a cartoon So yeah, I've been a cartoon for quite a bit some now and I for quite a bit some now and I think I'm going to move over to think I'm going to move over to my natural form. Cuz you know, my natural form. Cuz you know, I was actually working on I was actually working on something if I can show it off something if I can show it off to you guys. I've got this Doing the way I just need some Doing the way I just need some friends here to come to the friends here to come to the wave with me. This is a lot of fun. I'm gonna This is a lot of fun. I'm gonna get really good at this and be get really good at this and be able to transport to other able to transport to other environments. Let's see I'll be environments. Let's see I'll be able to do that now. See if I can move somewhere See if I can move somewhere else, Where can I go? Where else, Where can I go? Where would I go? Where am I going nope not going Where am I going nope not going anywhere? anywhere? Now, Now, I'm gonna go Whoa. I'm in Now, I'm gonna go Whoa. I'm in the field. I'm in the the field. I'm in the Himalayas. I'm in Nepal. This Himalayas. I'm in Nepal. This is nice, I can do a dance. I just had some music, I could I just had some music, I could like really get down on this all my friends on Instagram all my friends on Instagram probably wondering what the probably wondering what the heck I'm doing. if you go to heck I'm doing. if you go to the link go to the Facebook the link go to the Facebook page, It's like the newest live page, It's like the newest live video. That's there, you'll be video. That's there, you'll be able to see all the silliness. able to see all the silliness. Yeah. see it's silly. Yeah. so there this this side Yeah. so there this this side transported to the tea factory transported to the tea factory and Elam Nepal. this is good and Elam Nepal. this is good fun but I think I'm ready to fun but I think I'm ready to come back to my normal my come back to my normal my normal form so oh. Pardon me how rude of me to not Pardon me how rude of me to not show you I guess the arm the show you I guess the arm the arm features on the puppet arm features on the puppet Don't work. Hi Jeremy Good to see you. I'm Hi Jeremy Good to see you. I'm a rabbit today well on a rabbit today well on Instagram and on Facebook. I'm Instagram and on Facebook. I'm the Frog. It's good fun or I'm the Frog. It's good fun or I'm a turtle. Hi. Cindy. Thank you. a turtle. Hi. Cindy. Thank you. I like you too. Alright, so I I like you too. Alright, so I am going to go back to my am going to go back to my normal form. This has been good normal form. This has been good fun but I'm lost. I'm traveling fun but I'm lost. I'm traveling I'm moving and I lost everybody I'm moving and I lost everybody on Instagram. That's okay. I'll be coming back in a I'll be coming back in a second, you'll see me soon. One second, you'll see me soon. One of my The camera will come of my The camera will come back. I'll come back and then back. I'll come back and then we can get the party going we can get the party going until then I am going to open until then I am going to open the Zoom room. so if you want the Zoom room. so if you want to join. And we just click the to join. And we just click the link here you can see that's. That's interesting the camera That's interesting the camera forum is working but not for forum is working but not for the stream. Alright, I'll get this going. Here we go Alright so hi. I made it back, it was a hard I made it back, it was a hard job. you know transporting from job. you know transporting from the Himalayas from my tea tree the Himalayas from my tea tree here. it's good to see here. it's good to see everybody. Oh let me just fix everybody. Oh let me just fix myself a little indecent. How's everybody doing happy How's everybody doing happy Tuesday? Hi Layla Sorry, I don't know Hi Layla Sorry, I don't know your name. you wanna tell me your name. you wanna tell me your name. I'll be able to your name. I'll be able to address you directly. Yeah, If address you directly. Yeah, If you guys want to join, let me you guys want to join, let me just get the link up here, you just get the link up here, you are welcome to join. Come drink are welcome to join. Come drink some tea with me and we'll chat some tea with me and we'll chat talk about what's going on talk talk about what's going on talk about how exciting are opening about how exciting are opening of our social lives is going to of our social lives is going to be to catch up with you on be to catch up with you on that. there's a link here Bit that. there's a link here Bit dot LY Layla Nice to meet you dot LY Layla Nice to meet you Layla. I'm Elise. I'm gonna Layla. I'm Elise. I'm gonna wrap it today on Instagram. I wrap it today on Instagram. I wasn't able to change my form wasn't able to change my form just yet on Instagram. yeah, just yet on Instagram. yeah, the link is bit dot LY slash the link is bit dot LY slash Tula Tea Party. I'd love to Tula Tea Party. I'd love to have you here. We can catch up have you here. We can catch up drink some tea together and drink some tea together and yeah, no more tea at Salinas yeah, no more tea at Salinas Well, that was pretty fun. Well, that was pretty fun. Yeah, the turtle was was cool. Yeah, the turtle was was cool. I'm gonna go get my hot water I'm gonna go get my hot water and we can get drink tea. Has anybody checked out the the Has anybody checked out the the website that I posted yesterday website that I posted yesterday T and it's People dot com. Let T and it's People dot com. Let me know what you think. It was a lot of fun to build it It was a lot of fun to build it was very easy to build and so was very easy to build and so you know that's something that you know that's something that I wanna like reiterate over and I wanna like reiterate over and over and over again for all of over and over again for all of my friends in the business is my friends in the business is that there are so many tools that there are so many tools that make it so easy and fast that make it so easy and fast to get yourself online and to to get yourself online and to bring your business online. So bring your business online. So yeah, I just like to encourage yeah, I just like to encourage you to explore those things and you to explore those things and if you want help reach out to if you want help reach out to me I had to use. To Shopify, me I had to use. To Shopify, which right now will be due to which right now will be due to the Coven 19 pandemic. Shopify the Coven 19 pandemic. Shopify is doing a 90 day free trial is doing a 90 day free trial and then after that 90 day free and then after that 90 day free trial, I think the lowest price trial, I think the lowest price option they have is Is like $30 a month, something Is like $30 a month, something like that, so you know 90 days like that, so you know 90 days is the perfect amount of time is the perfect amount of time to Thanks Terry. I saw your to Thanks Terry. I saw your order. I'll be getting that out order. I'll be getting that out for you. Oh, you got it for for you. Oh, you got it for yourself. That's nice. I'll put yourself. That's nice. I'll put a special a special note in a special a special note in there for you. So yeah, you're there for you. So yeah, you're your order is gonna come with your order is gonna come with A- four tens of tea. That's A- four tens of tea. That's collector tens of teeth, which collector tens of teeth, which is always nice. I'll drink is always nice. I'll drink some. Scrub it for whatever is some. Scrub it for whatever is there? This is a first flush. there? This is a first flush. In 2013, so actually, this is In 2013, so actually, this is kinda good cuz someone was kinda good cuz someone was asking me about aging on asking me about aging on flowery Orthodox teas from the flowery Orthodox teas from the MLS. So it'll be good to taste MLS. So it'll be good to taste this. it's been a while since this. it's been a while since I've tasted that tea. So I've tasted that tea. So they're 90 days to build a they're 90 days to build a website to try it out. See you website to try it out. See you know if it works for you and know if it works for you and then after those 90 days, you then after those 90 days, you can decide if you wanna keep it can decide if you wanna keep it going or not and hopefully by going or not and hopefully by that point, you'll have enough that point, you'll have enough support from your community to support from your community to justify to justify paying those justify to justify paying those rates. Yeah, Terry the tens are rates. Yeah, Terry the tens are like the last a lifetime and like the last a lifetime and they're airtight. We have like they're airtight. We have like we designed them so that you we designed them so that you see that little like lip. On see that little like lip. On the tin there that lip comes the tin there that lip comes out a little bit and it seals out a little bit and it seals to the tens so it like it's to the tens so it like it's airtight so you can either use airtight so you can either use it to store other teas after it to store other teas after this tea empties or you can buy this tea empties or you can buy you know the same tea in bulk you know the same tea in bulk and then refill the tent and and then refill the tent and the pricing is a lot more the pricing is a lot more agreeable in that way and agreeable in that way and actually on the website, we actually on the website, we also have like bulk pricing also have like bulk pricing too. So on the drop down menu too. So on the drop down menu within each product you can see within each product you can see by ounce or by. either one by ounce or by. either one pound or 500 grams so if you pound or 500 grams so if you really like a tea and it's you really like a tea and it's you know really impart really know really impart really important part of your daily important part of your daily practice. you can get those practice. you can get those involved and that's usually the involved and that's usually the size that we sell in our size that we sell in our wholesale portion our wholesale wholesale portion our wholesale bags so You're kinda getting access to You're kinda getting access to our wholesale business. See nice looking look very See nice looking look very clean-looking very clear. Thank you. Coffee Laboratory. Oh, I'm gonna check Laboratory. Oh, I'm gonna check you out. That's an intriguing you out. That's an intriguing handle the coffee laboratory. handle the coffee laboratory. I'll have to check that out. I'll have to check that out. Yes, so the person that message Yes, so the person that message me about specifically like me about specifically like Andy's flowery processed teas, Andy's flowery processed teas, which is would qualify as it's which is would qualify as it's like very the word is like like very the word is like downey or pubs. There's a lot downey or pubs. There's a lot of that sediment within the of that sediment within the tea. this is definitely process tea. this is definitely process to be like more on like the the to be like more on like the the Green side or as some people Green side or as some people like to argue about teas that like to argue about teas that they're actually processed as they're actually processed as Longs like this definitely Longs like this definitely doesn't look like a black tea, doesn't look like a black tea, even though the grower had cat. even though the grower had cat. It as a black tea, it's It as a black tea, it's definitely you know not fully definitely you know not fully oxidized so you can see the oxidized so you can see the leaf not fully oxidized. leaf not fully oxidized. There's still some great. try There's still some great. try to get that picture. There's to get that picture. There's still some Green to the leaf. I still some Green to the leaf. I think yeah, Instagram, you think yeah, Instagram, you should be able to see that kind should be able to see that kind of greenness to leave. And So you know like Green teas do So you know like Green teas do they age Well. A lot of people they age Well. A lot of people say no. a lot of people say no say no. a lot of people say no you've got to rotate that stuff you've got to rotate that stuff with within a year and get the with within a year and get the fresh new inventory in and I've fresh new inventory in and I've come to find in my experience come to find in my experience just by having a bunch of teas just by having a bunch of teas sitting around teas like this, sitting around teas like this, he's I don't sell anymore, but he's I don't sell anymore, but just tease that are sitting just tease that are sitting around. Oh look who it is. He's around. Oh look who it is. He's probably gonna come and talk probably gonna come and talk some smack about my turtle. Hi. Hi, hi, I'm back to my at my Hi, hi, I'm back to my at my human form. I saw I've human form. I saw I've seen I'm seen I'm I'm just like I'm I'm seen I'm I'm just like I'm I'm pretty bored over here you know pretty bored over here you know so trying to keep myself so trying to keep myself entertained me too. Thank you entertained me too. Thank you for sorry about the light. for sorry about the light. That's okay. Any curtains, That's okay. Any curtains, Yeah, that'd be good you. you Yeah, that'd be good you. you don't have curtains on those don't have curtains on those windows. I guess it doesn't get windows. I guess it doesn't get too hot. so I've got the blinds too hot. so I've got the blinds and that a bit brighter if you and that a bit brighter if you want well, it's okay. Yeah. So want well, it's okay. Yeah. So I was just talking about. I'm I was just talking about. I'm sure you have an opinion on sure you have an opinion on this. you probably contribute this. you probably contribute to this discussion, but I was to this discussion, but I was just talking about aging teas just talking about aging teas and specifically like greener and specifically like greener teas like flowery greener teas. teas like flowery greener teas. how well do they age and like how well do they age and like should we have a? Rule that you should we have a? Rule that you should toss them out once should toss them out once they're a year old because they're a year old because yeah, I'm drinking like a yeah, I'm drinking like a flowery flowery a a first flush Jardine from a first flush Jardine from 2013, and yeah, you know not to 2013, and yeah, you know not to say that it was a fantastic tea say that it was a fantastic tea when it was fresh. you know, when it was fresh. you know, it's okay. It's not one of the it's okay. It's not one of the finer teas that we we sourced. finer teas that we we sourced. It was definitely early in my It was definitely early in my in my journey with but it's in my journey with but it's still very drinkable now so you still very drinkable now so you know definitely not something know definitely not something to be thrown out. What do you to be thrown out. What do you think? well, I've had Green think? well, I've had Green tea. I have my Green or long tea. I have my Green or long well greener teas, so you know well greener teas, so you know there could be Green teas on there could be Green teas on the oolong spectrum. You know, the oolong spectrum. You know, yeah I've had Green tea from yeah I've had Green tea from the eighties that was good. How the eighties that was good. How was it stored? I've no idea I was it stored? I've no idea I can add. I don't know if I get can add. I don't know if I get an answer. Tell me that story. an answer. Tell me that story. I wanna hear that story. Yeah I I wanna hear that story. Yeah I did to you might actually have did to you might actually have it on the website. Well, I it on the website. Well, I wanna hear your story about wanna hear your story about what about the tea about taking what about the tea about taking that tea about tasting that tea that tea about tasting that tea that tea looks really black now that tea looks really black now interesting. Okay like a it's interesting. Okay like a it's like an age. Huh Did I have the same like Huh Did I have the same like energetic feeling as like an energetic feeling as like an aged four? Yeah? No, I mean it aged four? Yeah? No, I mean it was sorry, but if you can do was sorry, but if you can do that it's yes and no I mean. that it's yes and no I mean. The poor would have to be. The poor would have to be. Older and eighties, depending Older and eighties, depending on how you store it, but it was on how you store it, but it was it was it hasn't same energy as it was it hasn't same energy as an older. interesting. Yeah. And I have a Japanese from 2009 And I have a Japanese from 2009 that is still very good. Good. that is still very good. Good. I'm happy to hear that now my I'm happy to hear that now my friend Sam, who you met last friend Sam, who you met last week you came on and and week you came on and and chatted with him my friend in chatted with him my friend in La and my friend in La. Yeah. La and my friend in La. Yeah. Yeah. he like he was at my Yeah. he like he was at my House one time and I had like House one time and I had like this old bag of that. you know, this old bag of that. you know, I was just casually drinking. I was just casually drinking. you know on my tea-table at my you know on my tea-table at my House and he had some and he House and he had some and he was like. Oh my God. I love was like. Oh my God. I love this tea. It's so great and I'm this tea. It's so great and I'm like. yeah. it's just like an like. yeah. it's just like an old. wouldn't sell this he was old. wouldn't sell this he was like well. To sell it to me cuz like well. To sell it to me cuz I want it and I am selling in I want it and I am selling in the bag. you know gave him. you the bag. you know gave him. you know really good price on it know really good price on it just because he wanted it so just because he wanted it so bad and that was maybe like two bad and that was maybe like two years ago and then just a few years ago and then just a few weeks ago, we were having tea weeks ago, we were having tea together through Zoom and he together through Zoom and he said. You know what Elise it's said. You know what Elise it's it's done you know, but he'd it's done you know, but he'd finished the bag, but he had he finished the bag, but he had he had gotten to that point and I had gotten to that point and I don't know how he was storing don't know how he was storing it and he was probably like it and he was probably like opening and closing the bag a opening and closing the bag a lot. so I think that does play lot. so I think that does play into it too like if you store into it too like if you store it in a very you know Nice and. And by nice, I really just mean And by nice, I really just mean like consistent you know like consistent you know consistent environments, then consistent environments, then you know it may age you know it may age differently, but he might have differently, but he might have been opening and closing the been opening and closing the bag every day to to drink it, bag every day to to drink it, but he did say that I have lost but he did say that I have lost you know I lost all of its you know I lost all of its texture and it's flavor and texture and it's flavor and even had started to develop even had started to develop some negative attributes to it. some negative attributes to it. so that's just one anecdote. so that's just one anecdote. That's just one you know That's just one you know perspective and. A very well, so yeah, there's A very well, so yeah, there's another greener oolong. you another greener oolong. you know that can that can well so. know that can that can well so. It might be a subjective It might be a subjective thing. thing. Yeah, I think it's not thing. Yeah, I think it's not really the initial to you and really the initial to you and then it depends on how it's then it depends on how it's stored, although there are stored, although there are people that just stored in a people that just stored in a plastic bag, you know, I mean a plastic bag, you know, I mean a lot but in a plastic bag and lot but in a plastic bag and they don't care if the light they don't care if the light hits it and it turns out really hits it and it turns out really good. huh Although the the ones good. huh Although the the ones I have had from long we're I have had from long we're just. About kind of yeah, that About kind of yeah, that happens a lot I think. What are you drinking now? I think the Chinese name isn't I think the Chinese name isn't it's a vong all immortal man. it's a vong all immortal man. It's oh. yeah. That's a good It's oh. yeah. That's a good one. Yeah 2015. very good lucky you look at you're lucky you look at you're drinking. good tea. Yeah. I drinking. good tea. Yeah. I feel when I go on like feel when I go on like socializing like this and more socializing like this and more important to drink. And not important to drink. And not more important, but it's nice more important, but it's nice when you're doing something when you're doing something with people. yeah people. but with people. yeah people. but we're talking. I mean in this we're talking. I mean in this case, you're really just case, you're really just flexing because it's not like flexing because it's not like you're sharing it with me or you're sharing it with me or like that you're just showing like that you're just showing off. Now you. It's a crappy Green tea crappy. It's a crappy Green tea crappy. Yeah. I mean with age, it's it's. I I mean with age, it's it's. I have a matcha that was not open have a matcha that was not open and it says it's expired in and it says it's expired in 2012. Yeah, I opened it and so 2012. Yeah, I opened it and so far I went in about a month far I went in about a month ago. That's why it's pretty ago. That's why it's pretty good. I'm Marie Bailey. Hi good. I'm Marie Bailey. Hi mine. That's Super cute rocks. mine. That's Super cute rocks. Did you see earlier? my stream? Did you see earlier? my stream? Did you watch it earlier, which Did you watch it earlier, which one this. This is yeah, I'm one this. This is yeah, I'm streaming to Facebook. You'll streaming to Facebook. You'll have to go back and watch it have to go back and watch it cuz I started out as a tea. I cuz I started out as a tea. I started out as a turtle on my started out as a turtle on my tray that turtle. My tea-pot here, oh it drinks My tea-pot here, oh it drinks tea. What's your cat's name? Marie What's your cat's name? Marie This is Toby or Tori Tori and This is Toby or Tori Tori and Toby drinks tea. Oh, yeah. she Toby drinks tea. Oh, yeah. she loves she loves and she loves loves she loves and she loves the waste water from tea. the waste water from tea. Perfect Sit sit. sit you sit with milk Sit sit. sit you sit with milk and then she'll like it even and then she'll like it even more. I don't know do all more. I don't know do all Catholic milk. I don't know Catholic milk. I don't know I've never had a cat that liked I've never had a cat that liked milk. I've never had a can so milk. I've never had a can so intolerant is what I've heard intolerant is what I've heard it's but I've lost. that's it's but I've lost. that's milk. I don't know Toby. I milk. I don't know Toby. I don't know she loves human don't know she loves human food. You know she loves milk. food. You know she loves milk. Whatever I'm eating or family Whatever I'm eating or family dog, you can eat margarine dog, you can eat margarine margarine and like liquid margarine and like liquid inside she got a hold of it inside she got a hold of it from the. I'm gonna make my little soap I'm gonna make my little soap box it if you're gonna be box it if you're gonna be eating margarine. just eat eating margarine. just eat butter. Yeah. that's my diet. butter. Yeah. that's my diet. just just eat the butter. It's just just eat the butter. It's like the margins words for you like the margins words for you than the butter and the butter than the butter and the butter is freaking delicious so just is freaking delicious so just to just eat the butter out of to just eat the butter out of the Irish burger. For many me the Irish burger. For many me from becoming vegan, I just from becoming vegan, I just cannot give up butter like cannot give up butter like butter. Stay with vegetarian. butter. Stay with vegetarian. Oh my gosh. This is a lot okay Oh my gosh. This is a lot okay I find a coconut oil to be like I find a coconut oil to be like a nice replacement of butter a nice replacement of butter that can have you know that that can have you know that kind of buttery taste to it. Coconut oil already so buttery Coconut oil already so buttery and rich On Facebook said she used to On Facebook said she used to have a cat that loves pizza. Oh have a cat that loves pizza. Oh my God. Toby loves pizza So I my God. Toby loves pizza So I think you like pizza, but she think you like pizza, but she loves like pizza sausage. Oh loves like pizza sausage. Oh okay, like the the the sausage okay, like the the the sausage on pizza huh interesting to the on pizza huh interesting to the pizza box and just lay on top pizza box and just lay on top of it. But I like what you guys of it. But I like what you guys were talking about about aging. were talking about about aging. Unos Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's a there's Yeah, I mean there's a there's there's a big argument. you there's a big argument. you know like in in the work that I know like in in the work that I do a lot of people will see do a lot of people will see like the vintage listed you like the vintage listed you know cuz we are transparent know cuz we are transparent about harvest date on about harvest date on everything and so they'll see everything and so they'll see the the year and they're the the year and they're immediate response is like. Oh immediate response is like. Oh why don't you have fresh teas? why don't you have fresh teas? It's like well. We have some It's like well. We have some from this year, but you know from this year, but you know these are vintages and you know these are vintages and you know like some people actually value like some people actually value that and so I have to do a lot that and so I have to do a lot of explaining behind that and of explaining behind that and and you know there's so. Ideas and you know there's so. Ideas within the spectrum like some within the spectrum like some people will say no absolutely people will say no absolutely not every team must be brand not every team must be brand new fresh, and it's some teas new fresh, and it's some teas like that's wrong. Actually like that's wrong. Actually like like teas like what I'm like like teas like what I'm drinking you want them to to drinking you want them to to rest for a while before you rest for a while before you drink them because their drink them because their flavors can be like really flavors can be like really intense and their energy can be intense and their energy can be really intense until they've really intense until they've had that time to rest. But then had that time to rest. But then there's other people within the there's other people within the spectrum that say, Oh, yeah, spectrum that say, Oh, yeah, maybe black teas and you know maybe black teas and you know some White teas can age but some White teas can age but definitely. Not Green teas or definitely. Not Green teas or oolong teas but then Eric was oolong teas but then Eric was just telling the story about just telling the story about how he you know, drink an aged how he you know, drink an aged Green tea that was really Green tea that was really amazing and so a lot of kilo amazing and so a lot of kilo No. Yeah, H T tends to be very Yeah, H T tends to be very expensive. And I'm like it's expensive. And I'm like it's more than gold. No man how much more than gold. No man how much did you get you like 10 kilos? did you get you like 10 kilos? Yeah, Of course, they're saying Yeah, Of course, they're saying gold my K. Now, it's not a grandma. Yeah. What are you drinking? I have What are you drinking? I have no idea at least in the Royalty no idea at least in the Royalty Expo. I don't know is it good. Expo. I don't know is it good. It is actually pretty good. It is actually pretty good. Let's all that count really Let's all that count really just love the fact that came in just love the fact that came in this like little ceramic thing this like little ceramic thing with ceramic Nice. It's some with ceramic Nice. It's some kind of wispy speaking of aging. Greens wispy speaking of aging. Greens and Whites tees that you're and Whites tees that you're probably not supposed to, but I probably not supposed to, but I think it taste pretty good and think it taste pretty good and I like the color. it has a I like the color. it has a pretty color so. Alright, it's pretty color so. Alright, it's a party guys. It's party Hi The turtle, the turtle did is The turtle, the turtle did is good. Jeremy and let me know meet Jeremy and let me know meet you. There okay, I saw at the end of There okay, I saw at the end of that we do experimenting with that we do experimenting with the turtle. Get better, It's the turtle. Get better, It's like this time I was able to like this time I was able to move side to side and around move side to side and around you know, but that's an you know, but that's an Instagram thing. No. it's Instagram thing. No. it's absolutely not an Instagram absolutely not an Instagram thing. it's it's like a puppet thing. it's it's like a puppet a puppet animator software. my a puppet animator software. my brother taught me about. I just brother taught me about. I just wanted to acknowledge the dance wanted to acknowledge the dance at Eric Glass just did about 20 at Eric Glass just did about 20 seconds ago. Eric Thank you seconds ago. Eric Thank you very much for sharing that with very much for sharing that with us, you should do that more us, you should do that more often you're dance. you're your often you're dance. you're your little dancing. You did. Oh no. little dancing. You did. Oh no. thank you so. I don't know if thank you so. I don't know if you know that one. We are okay, you know that one. We are okay, No, you don't you're not a fan. No, you don't you're not a fan. I'm you know no. Oh man is nice. I like man, Oh man is nice. I like man, although I'm not like Super although I'm not like Super familiar with her whole familiar with her whole collection of of music, but collection of of music, but well, I mean it's so hard. Many albums that she have Many albums that she have please and. Line. Yeah, That is a lot. So, yeah, we're gonna do a So, yeah, we're gonna do a rebroadcast of the virtual Tea rebroadcast of the virtual Tea Festival next week Thursday and Festival next week Thursday and I wanna try I'm gonna attempt I wanna try I'm gonna attempt to broadcast the entire thing to broadcast the entire thing as an animated character. I may as an animated character. I may even design my own animated even design my own animated character, a T related character, a T related character all the ones that character all the ones that I've been using are just like I've been using are just like pre generated ones, but the pre generated ones, but the software is sophisticated software is sophisticated enough that you can actually enough that you can actually like animate your own your own like animate your own your own character. So we'll see how character. So we'll see how advance I get at that. Are you using if you don't mind Are you using if you don't mind me asking? Yeah. It's a it's an me asking? Yeah. It's a it's an Adobe software called a Adobe software called a character animator. Oh how character animator. Oh how cool? yeah. it's really cool. cool? yeah. it's really cool. It's like a captures your It's like a captures your camera and we'll like now and camera and we'll like now and then like capture your then like capture your movements in the camera to the movements in the camera to the animated character. Oh wow. animated character. Oh wow. Yeah. That's a thing. Yeah Yeah. That's a thing. Yeah technology. Wow. are you gonna use your Wow. are you gonna use your little tea fairy or you're little tea fairy or you're gonna design something from gonna design something from scratch something completely scratch something completely brand new. I don't know I mean. brand new. I don't know I mean. yeah. I'd love to use a tea. yeah. I'd love to use a tea. fairy that'd be nice. One fairy that'd be nice. One that'd be a really good one that'd be a really good one right. Yeah a curl already next right. Yeah a curl already next week. The broadcast we're doing week. The broadcast we're doing is for the Reddit community. so is for the Reddit community. so I was thinking it would be kind I was thinking it would be kind of fun to what is that Eric, of fun to what is that Eric, What does that mean please What does that mean please expand? That one, it's just a expand? That one, it's just a rebroadcast with the other rebroadcast with the other ones. Yeah. It's just a ones. Yeah. It's just a rebroadcast. I mean the Q and A rebroadcast. I mean the Q and A will be fresh so like that in will be fresh so like that in interactivity will be fresh, interactivity will be fresh, but the you know the but the you know the presentations that we're that presentations that we're that were played on the last one were played on the last one will be played again. this will be played again. this repurposing that content but repurposing that content but yeah read it. read It has that yeah read it. read It has that little icon. It's a little little icon. It's a little character that character's name character that character's name is Snoo and so. I was gonna try is Snoo and so. I was gonna try to see if I could animate the to see if I could animate the new character and then you know new character and then you know pretend like I'm new pretend like I'm new broadcasting this tea festival. broadcasting this tea festival. You can get right permission. You can get right permission. Yeah. yeah. Of course, I'll ask Yeah. yeah. Of course, I'll ask about that. Yeah. The important about that. Yeah. The important are you gonna try to do those are you gonna try to do those remember those break-away room. remember those break-away room. You have more like a one hour You have more like a one hour break. Yeah. So the broadcast break. Yeah. So the broadcast is gonna run from eight am to is gonna run from eight am to two PM Western and then tea two PM Western and then tea talks is gonna happen right talks is gonna happen right after it and so then it it'll after it and so then it it'll be open ended. You know so be open ended. You know so we're gonna encourage everybody we're gonna encourage everybody that is at the Virtual Tea that is at the Virtual Tea Festival to join us in those Festival to join us in those breakout rooms and. Sam has breakout rooms and. Sam has been developing a pretty been developing a pretty advanced protocol. It's really advanced protocol. It's really fun actually cuz now it's like fun actually cuz now it's like it's like a choose your own it's like a choose your own adventure kind of journey that adventure kind of journey that you take through. you know the you take through. you know the you go into the lobby and you go into the lobby and there's a list of like what are there's a list of like what are your goals right now. Do you your goals right now. Do you wanna relax? Do you wanna wanna relax? Do you wanna learn? Do you wanna connect and learn? Do you wanna connect and then you click one of those and then you click one of those and then within each one of those then within each one of those choices, there's other choices choices, there's other choices and that would guide you to the and that would guide you to the break. That you would break. That you would eventually be put into okay. eventually be put into okay. Yeah and this is this is all Yeah and this is this is all with the intent of eventually with the intent of eventually building this potential 20 - building this potential 20 - four hour virtual tea room that four hour virtual tea room that depending on who is hosting one depending on who is hosting one of these rooms among our whole of these rooms among our whole network, you know of all of us network, you know of all of us that have been doing this that have been doing this virtual tea parties as well as virtual tea parties as well as others, too, we wanna open it others, too, we wanna open it up to all types of space up to all types of space holders Of tea. to you know be able to to hold to you know be able to to hold this kind of space anytime of this kind of space anytime of day, you know because all over day, you know because all over the world, people are drinking the world, people are drinking tea at all different times. tea at all different times. Okay. So so you can just so you Okay. So so you can just so you can just tell Sam all you know can just tell Sam all you know four to seven next Friday and four to seven next Friday and then you can just okay so be then you can just okay so be like open complete. Alright. like open complete. Alright. Yeah. I mean that's the sound Yeah. I mean that's the sound he wanted to be a 20 - four he wanted to be a 20 - four hour virtual tea. So you can do hour virtual tea. So you can do anytime. So if you can't get to sleep So if you can't get to sleep get online, Yeah exactly. Oh, get online, Yeah exactly. Oh, it's form. Yeah with people in it's form. Yeah with people in Sri Lanka, I was speaking of producers in Sri Lanka are producers in Sri Lanka are doing this virtual tastings of doing this virtual tastings of their new flush. So you know I their new flush. So you know I think they're doing their first think they're doing their first one 's early this morning one 's early this morning so hopefully. I'll be so hopefully. I'll be broadcasting clips of that broadcasting clips of that through this series that I do through this series that I do just to kinda keep people just to kinda keep people connected with the with source connected with the with source and what's going on at source. It sounds like work, I'm It sounds like work, I'm creating the I mean kudos to creating the I mean kudos to you guys. It sounds amazing, you guys. It sounds amazing, but I mean it has a like a but I mean it has a like a technology. I don't know it is technology. I don't know it is like easy for you so I can do like easy for you so I can do this to maintain a virtual 24 this to maintain a virtual 24 hour tea room from the hour tea room from the technology aspect. Yeah, it's technology aspect. Yeah, it's perfectly fine from a network perfectly fine from a network you know that's that's the you know that's that's the challenging part is to challenging part is to establish the culture and then establish the culture and then kind of. Lists a community of kind of. Lists a community of people to to manage that people to to manage that culture and keep it going. the culture and keep it going. the tech is easy. Actually tech is easy. Actually technology is really easy. Once technology is really easy. Once you set things up. It's just you set things up. It's just making sure that if you set a making sure that if you set a goal of like 20 - four hours a goal of like 20 - four hours a day that you have enough folks day that you have enough folks that believe in what you're that believe in what you're doing to you know doing to you know Keep it maintained. In months, Have you thought about cutting Have you thought about cutting your own hair? no matter? About that, like growing it About that, like growing it out, I think that make it look out, I think that make it look for you, the the T Rock star for you, the the T Rock star with your like long hair, you with your like long hair, you can head bang while you serve can head bang while you serve tea. Banging to the book for I don't Banging to the book for I don't know. It''s isn't it is that who It''s isn't it is that who yeah, maybe that's you are the yeah, maybe that's you are the yeah. It's there's like an R yeah. It's there's like an R sound at the end. I don't know sound at the end. I don't know if it's her or core core. I if it's her or core core. I think it's very it's very think it's very it's very slight but. I've heard too like slight but. I've heard too like show or shampoo, you know show or shampoo, you know they're just like cuz I get they're just like cuz I get some about having too many Scs some about having too many Scs bad luck or something I've bad luck or something I've heard and the Chinese language. heard and the Chinese language. So like I got two syllables So like I got two syllables like like more suspicious or like like more suspicious or more good luck or something I more good luck or something I don't know. have you heard that don't know. have you heard that she had or I definitely heard she had or I definitely heard the poo. I just thought it was the poo. I just thought it was a slang. I I've never heard the a slang. I I've never heard the reasoning why you. That that's reasoning why you. That that's what I've heard from the what I've heard from the Chinese friend, she said that Chinese friend, she said that it's you know it's instead of it's you know it's instead of like three syllables like that like three syllables like that or something or four syllables or something or four syllables a lot of times they cut it to a lot of times they cut it to like a two syllable word I make like a two syllable word I make I I it make sense. you know I I it make sense. you know four syllables cuz you have four syllables cuz you have four is you know a bad number. four is you know a bad number. It's an unlucky number. Yeah It's an unlucky number. Yeah that. If you wanna get your pottery If you wanna get your pottery up on the website, you can up on the website, you can totally do that. What do you totally do that. What do you want me to do? Do you want me want me to do? Do you want me to Email pictures and words to to Email pictures and words to you or yeah that'll be the best you or yeah that'll be the best you know if it's a lot of you know if it's a lot of pictures and the more pictures pictures and the more pictures the better. if it's a lot of the better. if it's a lot of pictures you can just create pictures you can just create like a Google folder or like a Google folder or something like that. And yeah, something like that. And yeah, I've ever did come in. you know I've ever did come in. you know I could just send them to you I could just send them to you know what I mean, like send the know what I mean, like send the label to you and and all of label to you and and all of that and we can figure out the that and we can figure out the rest of it, but yeah, that's rest of it, but yeah, that's that's called drop shipping. that's called drop shipping. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm new to it, Yeah. I'm I'm I'm new to it, but it's so funny because like but it's so funny because like I'm all excited now about I'm all excited now about dropshipping and then dropshipping and then immediately today I'm going to immediately today I'm going to YouTube and it's telling me YouTube and it's telling me should be dead why you don't should be dead why you don't wanna drop ship and I'm like wanna drop ship and I'm like ??? you too like come on. I ??? you too like come on. I just feel. I like. Well, so the just feel. I like. Well, so the drop shipping is challenging drop shipping is challenging and so you know like if if we and so you know like if if we do this project together, I do this project together, I still you know wouldn't still you know wouldn't guarantee to you that there's guarantee to you that there's gonna be an immense amount of gonna be an immense amount of sales because drop shipping sales because drop shipping adds it adds friction to the adds it adds friction to the process it adds costs and and process it adds costs and and inefficiencies to the process inefficiencies to the process so that might have been related so that might have been related to why Google was saying drop to why Google was saying drop shipping so and we're also shipping so and we're also probably talking about people probably talking about people who buy and. Yeah, you know who buy and. Yeah, you know like person who makes the like person who makes the things myself. It's not that things myself. It's not that big of a deal. That's just like big of a deal. That's just like one or two pieces. So you know one or two pieces. So you know what I mean, like yeah holding what I mean, like yeah holding on to my art. So it's it's not on to my art. So it's it's not like I I wanna you know what I like I I wanna you know what I mean, so I feel like they're it mean, so I feel like they're it was this targeted at me, you was this targeted at me, you know. and of course, it was know. and of course, it was like you know some blonde guy like you know some blonde guy surfer looking some people surfer looking some people weight lifts with like weight lifts with like Abercrombie and shirt, and Abercrombie and shirt, and what's like like. Like an what's like like. Like an a-hole, you know like this is a-hole, you know like this is not a person and I would like not a person and I would like ever talk to in real life like ever talk to in real life like where are you giving me the I where are you giving me the I don't think I don't respond to don't think I don't respond to that kind of marketing. Yeah, that kind of marketing. Yeah, that's an interesting ad. I you that's an interesting ad. I you know, I hadn't heard that know, I hadn't heard that argument like the The last argument like the The last trend was that drop shipping is trend was that drop shipping is killing Ecommerce. So yeah like killing Ecommerce. So yeah like 10 years ago, it was all about 10 years ago, it was all about you know, getting a warehouse you know, getting a warehouse and filling it with a bunch of and filling it with a bunch of junk and and posting that up on junk and and posting that up on Amazon to sell, but then drop Amazon to sell, but then drop shipping became very easy and shipping became very easy and there's platforms that make there's platforms that make drop shipping very easy. so you drop shipping very easy. so you can you can be working with can you can be working with hundreds of suppliers. And not hundreds of suppliers. And not have a warehouse at all and so have a warehouse at all and so then that became preferred then that became preferred because that you don't have the because that you don't have the overhead of your warehouse and overhead of your warehouse and fulfillment and all of that and fulfillment and all of that and you could strictly work off of you could strictly work off of drop shipping So last year, the drop shipping So last year, the conversation was like oh drop conversation was like oh drop ship is killing Amazon ship is killing Amazon warehouses but I think Amazon warehouses but I think Amazon is killing it all now you know is killing it all now you know well and that's technically we well and that's technically we think about it. That's what think about it. That's what Etsy is is it's a giant drop Etsy is is it's a giant drop shipping platform. You know shipping platform. You know what's so no drop shipping what's so no drop shipping would be if other people are would be if other people are selling your Etsy products like selling your Etsy products like as their own orders. You know, as their own orders. You know, you know that yeah, I mean you you know that yeah, I mean you could do that and you should could do that and you should pursue that is the only issue pursue that is the only issue with that is that there's with that is that there's another middleman. and then another middleman. and then there's like that other point there's like that other point of friction but you know if of friction but you know if you're a patient, you should you're a patient, you should just do it if you're in a hurry just do it if you're in a hurry to move some product, then you to move some product, then you know it might be challenging. know it might be challenging. but if if you're patient and but if if you're patient and you just want your. Exposure you just want your. Exposure and you just like want your and you just like want your products to be across different products to be across different platforms and yeah, you should platforms and yeah, you should totally offer drop shipping to totally offer drop shipping to people cuz it's low risk for people cuz it's low risk for them. like for, for instance, them. like for, for instance, with the website I built if I with the website I built if I post your products to my post your products to my website, it's no risk for me website, it's no risk for me other than the time it takes other than the time it takes for me to upload things and for me to upload things and format it and make it look nice format it and make it look nice but if an order comes in, it's but if an order comes in, it's not like I had to invest in all not like I had to invest in all of that inventory and stock it of that inventory and stock it and all of that. So yeah drop and all of that. So yeah drop shipping is a good option. Yeah, I and I know how to wrap Yeah, I and I know how to wrap them properly, you know because them properly, you know because of a funny one of the other of a funny one of the other talks you're talking about like talks you're talking about like outsourcing they're sleeping outsourcing they're sleeping and how you know when you start and how you know when you start outsourcing you know they don't outsourcing you know they don't really care about the products really care about the products and they don't know what the and they don't know what the property that it should be property that it should be stored in the handle that you stored in the handle that you know. so like Oh I'm wrapped up know. so like Oh I'm wrapped up and I like a you note and and I like a you note and that's to Yeah, I mean the only challenge Yeah, I mean the only challenge is that like in the shipping, is that like in the shipping, I'm gonna have to charge more I'm gonna have to charge more for the shipping on your for the shipping on your products because I'll never be products because I'll never be able to like pack everything able to like pack everything together into one package together into one package together to save all the together to save all the shipping for them, but you know shipping for them, but you know that's gonna be up to the that's gonna be up to the customer if they're willing to customer if they're willing to pay that you know that they pay that you know that they value and so that's it. So yeah value and so that's it. So yeah it's with some customers like it's with some customers like the idea that it's being like the idea that it's being like shipped directly out of my shipped directly out of my studio. you know like I felt studio. you know like I felt like that. For them, yeah, like that. For them, yeah, definitely Eric likes it and if he likes Eric likes it and if he likes it, then it's good to go so let it, then it's good to go so let movement in his left hand for movement in his left hand for damage. Exactly. Can I ask a damage. Exactly. Can I ask a few friends? I know that I was few friends? I know that I was so packaging has been I know so packaging has been I know that I think people cuz I do that I think people cuz I do know like the one you Japanese know like the one you Japanese like baby boomers the Japanese like baby boomers the Japanese tea families. They're big on tea families. They're big on packaging. Not like the packaging. Not like the packaging is more important packaging is more important than the piece itself, and I'm than the piece itself, and I'm just wondering like what do you just wondering like what do you guys think about packaging cuz guys think about packaging cuz you see I one box of at least you see I one box of at least and that's kinda where I'm but and that's kinda where I'm but with the cold, I don't have with the cold, I don't have access to the lab in the access to the lab in the machine right now to create my machine right now to create my wooden boxes for my pieces. So wooden boxes for my pieces. So I'm just I'm curious what you I'm just I'm curious what you guys think. Packaging on wear guys think. Packaging on wear like a cardboard want because like a cardboard want because if it would, I feel like I if it would, I feel like I really need to keep it save it really need to keep it save it and I mean boxes from my team and I mean boxes from my team where I can, but it just seems. where I can, but it just seems. I don't wanna say, but it's a I don't wanna say, but it's a nice enough to the point where nice enough to the point where I definitely need to store it I definitely need to store it well. I mean, I don't know I mean I I mean, I don't know I mean I like it, but it's just an extra like it, but it's just an extra thing that goes in a family. thing that goes in a family. You know what I mean for me. Obviously, the culture is Obviously, the culture is different. Yeah, Japanese tea Yeah, Japanese tea practitioners The wooden box is practitioners The wooden box is very important to them. so yeah very important to them. so yeah you just gotta know your you just gotta know your audience wouldn't signature. If audience wouldn't signature. If you know what I mean, yeah and you know what I mean, yeah and then you're on it. but yeah, then you're on it. but yeah, it's I know my stuff. It's the product is good. But you know so so kind of I But you know so so kind of I guess how much value based on guess how much value based on other people you respect and other people you respect and like what they say as far as like what they say as far as like tea wears and like I don't like tea wears and like I don't wanna say prestige but wanna say prestige but credibility I guess a credibility I guess a You know You know how important is it to You know how important is it to you to have good? I guess you to have good? I guess reviews from other people for reviews from other people for a-team, where like other a-team, where like other people's opinions. How how much people's opinions. How how much value do you place on other value do you place on other people and people that you feel people and people that you feel or higher up on a higher ladder or higher up on a higher ladder of the vultures? my main versus of the vultures? my main versus new person or or or For people that you know, yeah, For people that you know, yeah, I said that. Normally, when I I said that. Normally, when I mean just recently, which I mean just recently, which I shouldn't done all long. By the shouldn't done all long. By the wear, I ask them to do video do wear, I ask them to do video do a short video of it for you. And that's and then if it pours And that's and then if it pours well sure I'll do it. well sure I'll do it. But what But what if it was no meuse But what if it was no meuse pouring in. I'd like it even more now. It's clouds no. oh sorry. Sorry It's clouds no. oh sorry. Sorry I see that's how Anna I am. I I see that's how Anna I am. I just knew it was a button for just knew it was a button for you now. I think you know Marie you now. I think you know Marie I think from like an online I think from like an online marketing perspective, it is marketing perspective, it is absolutely important. you know absolutely important. you know from like a knowledgeable connoiss. it's less important connoiss. it's less important like it's more important to like it's more important to show it in action like like show it in action like like Eric, just said and with that, Eric, just said and with that, said, you should just do that said, you should just do that like that that should just be like that that should just be like an automatic shoot that like an automatic shoot that you take of. Product that you you take of. Product that you post is like being able to see post is like being able to see in action. so if it's a teapot, in action. so if it's a teapot, then definitely have a video on then definitely have a video on the profile of a poor and even the profile of a poor and even just water of it pouring you just water of it pouring you know but also having the know but also having the testimonial is really and testimonial is really and really important. It's not about yeah and you you It's not about yeah and you you journey, but how how do you journey, but how how do you feel about packaging? After yeah, that typically if After yeah, that typically if it arrives intact, I don't care it arrives intact, I don't care how I think there is something to I think there is something to be said about like so it's be said about like so it's almost like two flaky to precise. It's it's almost to precise. It's it's almost like distraction of the crop like distraction of the crop like I wouldn't be afraid of it like I wouldn't be afraid of it just being in a cardboard box. just being in a cardboard box. I don't think that'll be. I I don't think that'll be. I think the shinier the brighter think the shinier the brighter it is it's actually just it is it's actually just waiting for certain clientele waiting for certain clientele depends on who you wanna go depends on who you wanna go for. so like if I if I were in hand so like if I if I were in hand and they came in a cardboard and they came in a cardboard box and there was handwriting box and there was handwriting on the box, I'd rather see like on the box, I'd rather see like a logo on a cardboard box and a logo on a cardboard box and then something coming. That's then something coming. That's like overly professional and like overly professional and like so I think there's like an like so I think there's like an authenticity to it. You can't authenticity to it. You can't make sure make sure you have make sure make sure you have that. Or a little papers that. Or a little papers through certificate. Yeah. You through certificate. Yeah. You know signature of some sort. know signature of some sort. yeah if anything anything yeah if anything anything handwritten, It's like every handwritten, It's like every time I ship something. I just time I ship something. I just feel like a man like yeah cuz I feel like a man like yeah cuz I wanna I mean like I can hand wanna I mean like I can hand write the name of pee on the write the name of pee on the back. You know I don't you and back. You know I don't you and he's labeling and I write it by he's labeling and I write it by hand in life. Must have a good hand in life. Must have a good handwriting. Good enough. Shipping is more expensive, Shipping is more expensive, too. You can get you know too. You can get you know better shipping rates by using better shipping rates by using a labeling service. You know a labeling service. You know and on that too and packaging and on that too and packaging and this is something that we and this is something that we deal with with the imports is deal with with the imports is that ideally, I would love to that ideally, I would love to receive all of our tea inside receive all of our tea inside wooden crates because it wooden crates because it protects the tea better you protects the tea better you know with the international know with the international shipping, but it also will shipping, but it also will increase the logistics cost increase the logistics cost sometimes double because of the sometimes double because of the weight. you know, but if you're weight. you know, but if you're shipping a very high quality shipping a very high quality product, then you know like product, then you know like that. Increase maybe. You know that. Increase maybe. You know covered with the increased covered with the increased perceived value of the product. perceived value of the product. Same thing with our tens, you Same thing with our tens, you know they add weight and they know they add weight and they add a lot of cost to our add a lot of cost to our packaging, but people like them packaging, but people like them because like the additional because like the additional costs may be only $2. but the costs may be only $2. but the additional perceived cost is additional perceived cost is $5. So there's a $3 balance $5. So there's a $3 balance there that justifies it. So you there that justifies it. So you know, I think a lot of it know, I think a lot of it depends on. Selling to what depends on. Selling to what people are buying it for people people are buying it for people buying it as a gift for people buying it as a gift for people is that what you're targeting is that what you're targeting people to buy it as then, Heck, people to buy it as then, Heck, yeah, you wanted it to be like yeah, you wanted it to be like a really cool presentable a really cool presentable package that feels like a gift package that feels like a gift and I think that that's a big and I think that that's a big part of like Japanese culture part of like Japanese culture of why they value packaging. So of why they value packaging. So much is a lot of times. It is a much is a lot of times. It is a gifting. you know the the gifting. you know the the culture they're so strong that culture they're so strong that a lot of things are gifted and. a lot of things are gifted and. For show as well, so you know For show as well, so you know like they they like having all like they they like having all those wooden boxes in the those wooden boxes in the Cabinet somewhere Eric cuz cuz Cabinet somewhere Eric cuz cuz they wanna be able to show it they wanna be able to show it off when their friends come off when their friends come over to drink tea with them over to drink tea with them open that Cabinet and and and open that Cabinet and and and then the box itself means then the box itself means something to you know I was something to you know I was telling you when you showed me telling you when you showed me a wooden box that first time a wooden box that first time you know, I had just gone to you know, I had just gone to the the US San school here in the the US San school here in Vegas and the teacher was Vegas and the teacher was showing us all of her wooden showing us all of her wooden boxes and how you all you can boxes and how you all you can tell this pot is like the tell this pot is like the highest level of quality highest level of quality because the wooden box has the. because the wooden box has the. You know protection Slants on You know protection Slants on the inside of the box, you know the inside of the box, you know Middle level has just two Middle level has just two Slants and then the lowest Slants and then the lowest level has no slants in it. it level has no slants in it. it represents something so yeah, represents something so yeah, if you're gonna try to target if you're gonna try to target the Japanese audience, you the Japanese audience, you definitely wanna have that definitely wanna have that fancy packaging, but if you're fancy packaging, but if you're trying to sell something to air trying to sell something to air glass, you just wanna put it glass, you just wanna put it basically into like a grocery basically into like a grocery store bag and just like tie it store bag and just like tie it on the top and just throw it to on the top and just throw it to him. I was in the box and the box I was in the box and the box the box the box. I got it, you can buy this as I got it, you can buy this as much I. The box inside will not be as The box inside will not be as much. If there's something let much. If there's something let me get. I'm out of my chest, but it's I'm out of my chest, but it's not the stuff on. Yeah, I mean, I've got boxes Yeah, I mean, I've got boxes full of boxes for all of our full of boxes for all of our teamwork cuz we travel with our teamwork cuz we travel with our team where a lot you know to go team where a lot you know to go to festivals or go to the to festivals or go to the events. so you know like we're events. so you know like we're constantly having to pack it up constantly having to pack it up safely so I have to have boxes safely so I have to have boxes of boxes but for like my really of boxes but for like my really fancy tea wear anything worth fancy tea wear anything worth more than I would say $200. I more than I would say $200. I like having you know a nice like having you know a nice solid box for it. So I don't solid box for it. So I don't know. Bring my people in that know. Bring my people in that box. It's a very sturdy hard. box. It's a very sturdy hard. Yeah. This is easy to open and Yeah. This is easy to open and you can do it and then a little you can do it and then a little bit. I wonder if you could do bit. I wonder if you could do it made me think of this. if it made me think of this. if you do like it's kind of like you do like it's kind of like unique packaging. I got this I unique packaging. I got this I want but there's they're just want but there's they're just packing in too like if you were packing in too like if you were to do guy ones have one and to do guy ones have one and like little cylinder almost like little cylinder almost just the uniqueness of that just the uniqueness of that package with send you a car. package with send you a car. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think I like in a thick I think I like in a thick cardboard 10. does I like that cardboard 10. does I like that even if it's just different so even if it's just different so I'm gonna do something in I'm gonna do something in there. Yeah. That's like the there. Yeah. That's like the signature. Yeah, if you can signature. Yeah, if you can have a package the good ones have a package the good ones there's no one. I know I know there's no one. I know I know no now we know. me because you know when I me because you know when I first met Omar Riverstone, first met Omar Riverstone, that's the fella that did the that's the fella that did the tour of his jaine Dragon T tour of his jaine Dragon T truck his his tea House when I truck his his tea House when I first met him whatever that's first met him whatever that's six years ago seven years ago, six years ago seven years ago, how long ago that was he was I how long ago that was he was I found him because he was making found him because he was making these custom tea-pot holders. these custom tea-pot holders. They were like leather bouncy. They were like leather bouncy. Would send him your teapot and Would send him your teapot and then he would custom size like then he would custom size like this leather bound Super thick this leather bound Super thick padded you know handcrafted padded you know handcrafted case for it, so it wasn't even case for it, so it wasn't even a box. It was like a glove. a box. It was like a glove. Basically, it was like this Basically, it was like this hard glove. they're beautiful. hard glove. they're beautiful. I don't know if he's making I don't know if he's making them still. but yeah, that's them still. but yeah, that's that's Omar for you. He's that's Omar for you. He's constantly thinking of cool constantly thinking of cool things like that, but that things like that, but that could be you know. Much more could be you know. Much more expensive, I think he was expensive, I think he was charging like charging like a hundred and $200 for that, a hundred and $200 for that, but if it's something like but if it's something like really important and valuable really important and valuable to you like you know your to you like you know your favorite pot, then you know favorite pot, then you know that's value for you. It just that's value for you. It just depends what you want with it. So you can throw it. This is a So you can throw it. This is a different. I just wanted to different. I just wanted to catch up Joe had left a couple catch up Joe had left a couple of comments. I wanted to catch of comments. I wanted to catch up his perspective in this, he up his perspective in this, he says. As a consumer, I don't says. As a consumer, I don't want to end up paying more for want to end up paying more for fancy packaging, which fancy packaging, which inevitably happens as the inevitably happens as the quality of the package rises. quality of the package rises. So as much as I enjoy cool So as much as I enjoy cool containers to put stuff in, I containers to put stuff in, I think simple basic packaging is think simple basic packaging is the way to go and to the second the way to go and to the second question reviews are priceless question reviews are priceless online, especially with online, especially with pictures and videos. Most pictures and videos. Most people trust the reviews more people trust the reviews more than the description. Final than the description. Final point is that he agrees with point is that he agrees with Jeremy we're transitioning into Jeremy we're transitioning into simpler packaging with more simpler packaging with more handwriting for as well. So handwriting for as well. So yeah simple functional yeah simple functional signature. Can you be with this signature. Can you be with this The second sentence the second The second sentence the second comment he says. reviews are comment he says. reviews are priceless online, especially priceless online, especially with pictures and videos most with pictures and videos most piece most people trust. Of the piece most people trust. Of the reviews more than the reviews more than the description. It might be good, I think the It might be good, I think the actual internal package is you actual internal package is you know what's in the box? How how know what's in the box? How how was that? it's? it's probably was that? it's? it's probably more important than you know, more important than you know, but if there was something a but if there was something a little you can get like little you can get like Unboxing video, you have Unboxing video, you have customers sort of unboxing for customers sort of unboxing for the first time they were more the first time they were more interested in what side then interested in what side then what the box is. Something like that, it's just Something like that, it's just one other. One of the way to one other. One of the way to explode and Well, that's kind of an Well, that's kind of an interesting concept too, you interesting concept too, you know does I need some people know does I need some people believe like especially the believe like especially the Japanese. They believe that the Japanese. They believe that the the rapping the boxes you know the rapping the boxes you know like again as an important and like again as an important and helps to like excite and like helps to like excite and like it the that there's something it the that there's something in me. I think it and humans of in me. I think it and humans of the surprise I can you know the surprise I can you know almost like a you know I'm almost like a you know I'm right or type feelings you know right or type feelings you know like when we would find that like when we would find that like a stress positions, you like a stress positions, you know, it's just. So treat to know, it's just. So treat to get you know it's normal and I get you know it's normal and I feel this this love of opening feel this this love of opening up things you know like opening up things you know like opening up the coconut or you know and up the coconut or you know and and and it's just interesting and and it's just interesting how often it. I don't know this how often it. I don't know this evolutionary like traits like evolutionary like traits like this or like some kind of like this or like some kind of like and food finds. I don't know weird things I I don't know weird things I think about I don't know if think about I don't know if anybody else think about those anybody else think about those things you know. Yeah, like things you know. Yeah, like what I humans love so the what I humans love so the opening of something and opening of something and finding of the treasure the finding of the treasure the thing you know it's That might thing you know it's That might be the solution you know to be the solution you know to your question. You know what your question. You know what it's gonna be unique to you. it's gonna be unique to you. Yeah, maybe a little treat Yeah, maybe a little treat right and it doesn't have to do right and it doesn't have to do the same thing every time. Oh, the same thing every time. Oh, yeah. each person gets their yeah. each person gets their own little. What if you put a own little. What if you put a box of Cracker jacks inside. You'll get that and he's like You'll get that and he's like I'm allergic to corn. You got one that I don't need. I don't one that I don't need. I don't eat high fructose corn syrup eat high fructose corn syrup yeah you do a lot of the what about doing of the what about doing something custom like like if something custom like like if someone were to order in a very someone were to order in a very specific at the pot because the specific at the pot because the tea. Typically made with the tea. Typically made with the excess right from the making of excess right from the making of the pot. Yeah, if you customize the pot. Yeah, if you customize it were like I'd love this pie. it were like I'd love this pie. maybe it's glazed, but if you maybe it's glazed, but if you can make this pet that can make this pet that accompanied with it like I love accompanied with it like I love this bottle. so I mean that this bottle. so I mean that would be very personal and it would be very personal and it would be made from the same would be made from the same clay as the pot and I think clay as the pot and I think people would love that, people would love that, especially you ask for what it especially you ask for what it is. Next to you and there's a is. Next to you and there's a part just a small little bit. part just a small little bit. Yeah like I think in this Yeah like I think in this little stand that made out of little stand that made out of the same play the really cool, but the are the really cool, but the are and I like the idea of the T and I like the idea of the T stand and I like the one that stand and I like the one that double function as a filter double function as a filter stand too. You know there. I stand too. You know there. I don't know if you've seen those don't know if you've seen those I'm. Seen them maybe you can't. I'm. Seen them maybe you can't. I think what shaped like a I think what shaped like a little owl that would be it has little owl that would be it has the lid on looks like it's the lid on looks like it's wearing a hat would be really wearing a hat would be really cute that would be cute and cute that would be cute and it's so cute and you just like it's so cute and you just like this. You know he doesn't have. You You know he doesn't have. You can put the lid on. I think my lid on I'm. Well, not really. I think it's just up to you I think it's just up to you like what's authentic for you. like what's authentic for you. That's ultimately what it's That's ultimately what it's going to be and how how you going to be and how how you wanna connect with your wanna connect with your customers. Right so I've already I have so Right so I've already I have so for the things I wanna offer for the things I wanna offer through your website. I do have through your website. I do have like thank you notes that have like thank you notes that have like a little bit info about us like a little bit info about us and like a part of authenticity and like a part of authenticity and I always like to put in a and I always like to put in a little extra gifts whenever little extra gifts whenever anybody makes the purchase you anybody makes the purchase you know just as a thank you huh. know just as a thank you huh. No. Yeah. Oh, no, I have a pot No. Yeah. Oh, no, I have a pot that the artist and has now that the artist and has now passed or he's now dead and I'm passed or he's now dead and I'm a teapot that was so me on like a teapot that was so me on like a discount because it had a a discount because it had a thumb print on it and I was thumb print on it and I was like oh, that makes it so much like oh, that makes it so much better, but it's not as like a better, but it's not as like a signature. I mean it's on the signature. I mean it's on the side, but it's a little smush side, but it's a little smush like that. I would love that like that. I would love that instead of a of thumb print. instead of a of thumb print. Let me cool. Yeah I I love that Let me cool. Yeah I I love that too, but you know again. it's too, but you know again. it's you know you're always gonna you know you're always gonna have levels of snobbery and have levels of snobbery and anything you do. let me anything you do. let me personally. I love thumb prints personally. I love thumb prints and I love finger prints and I and I love finger prints and I love seeing the maker's Mark love seeing the maker's Mark but and some lineages, it's but and some lineages, it's it's as a low quality thing so it's as a low quality thing so for the maker to have any for the maker to have any visible Mark within the and visible Mark within the and especially like with the especially like with the teapots, you know and the parts teapots, you know and the parts and they have. A hierarchy of and they have. A hierarchy of Mastery, you know so but like Mastery, you know so but like I'm so glad we're kindred I'm so glad we're kindred spirit because I love that I spirit because I love that I love seeing the tooling marks love seeing the tooling marks and the and and like Kevin one and the and and like Kevin one of my mentors. He loves that of my mentors. He loves that too. But then you know, I've too. But then you know, I've heard other people who poo-poo heard other people who poo-poo it and they hate it, You know I would not not a-team. A good I would not not a-team. A good kind of cheese, No no, I'm not gonna spend $500 on no, I'm not gonna spend $500 on five. You don't it's kinda five. You don't it's kinda interesting like when some interesting like when some people post like pictures of people post like pictures of like tea, wears and stuff, and like tea, wears and stuff, and they're like you're basically they're like you're basically asking like when are you sell asking like when are you sell this for more than I paid for this for more than I paid for it and they're asking people is it and they're asking people is this A real tea-pot is this this A real tea-pot is this exactly what the artisan said exactly what the artisan said it is and you know and I just it is and you know and I just I'm personally. Get a little I'm personally. Get a little weirded out when I hear I don't weirded out when I hear I don't know people brought me slip know people brought me slip past teapots and they're paying past teapots and they're paying like $500 for it and I just I'm like $500 for it and I just I'm a maker. I know it's a little a maker. I know it's a little tea. They don't wanna hear that tea. They don't wanna hear that you don't wanna hear that you don't wanna hear that they've spent $500 thinking they've spent $500 thinking they got like some hand thing, they got like some hand thing, but you know I don't know it's but you know I don't know it's it's it's kinda interesting the it's it's kinda interesting the art market you know, but it's art market you know, but it's just like any high value market just like any high value market like arts and teas or samurai like arts and teas or samurai swords or pearls. It's really swords or pearls. It's really easy to get ripped off in home. easy to get ripped off in home. And then it comes down to a lot And then it comes down to a lot of trust between the and the of trust between the and the artisan. It's like at the end artisan. It's like at the end of the day, you're either gonna of the day, you're either gonna trust what this artist in our trust what this artist in our office and telling you about office and telling you about the people that you know so we the people that you know so we got you a little weirded out. I got you a little weirded out. I don't know anybody else uses don't know anybody else uses this Post's where it's like I this Post's where it's like I don't know. There's one thing that's There's one thing that's interesting. I met a potter He interesting. I met a potter He was adopted he's like because was adopted he's like because what he was doing. He said he what he was doing. He said he was he was doing everything was he was doing everything outside and lost control of the outside and lost control of the face and just sort of shot shot face and just sort of shot shot off the on the table and it was off the on the table and it was and into his lawn, but when you and into his lawn, but when you picked it up and had amazing picked it up and had amazing the grain of the grass created the grain of the grass created this awesome pattern that it this awesome pattern that it was just a dumb. That actually, was just a dumb. That actually, I did to have a very I did to have a very significant in your look. so significant in your look. so it's like maybe like a look it's like maybe like a look like a you even have a grass like a you even have a grass and leave it or something like and leave it or something like that, just one and even if it's that, just one and even if it's like like you know like like like you know like underneath the handler, one is underneath the handler, one is very specific spot. I mean you very specific spot. I mean you have you know like it's like have you know like it's like you have to know where it is you have to know where it is and be your signature. He made a mistake and and he He made a mistake and and he was and he was smelling those was and he was smelling those bases like twice the price bases like twice the price because people thought it was because people thought it was some advanced. I can, and he some advanced. I can, and he said, I just toss it in the said, I just toss it in the line and he came back and he line and he came back and he reshape it and that's it but it reshape it and that's it but it was it was interesting. It was was it was interesting. It was so unique and people didn't so unique and people didn't quite get it at first. what it quite get it at first. what it was but once you do it kinda cool. but once you do it kinda cool. This is like one tiny little This is like one tiny little you in on the pot, you guys can you in on the pot, you guys can go a long way. That's yeah, So I think the the That's yeah, So I think the the verdict of this conversation is verdict of this conversation is packaging is less important and packaging is less important and signature is more important signature is more important than signature doesn't than signature doesn't necessarily just need to be necessarily just need to be your hand printed signature. So your hand printed signature. So I think this is your time to I think this is your time to get creative. Marie Thanks get creative. Marie Thanks guys. It's a Joe left one more It's a Joe left one more comment. He just kind of comment. He just kind of reiterate and everything we're reiterate and everything we're saying that he says a personal saying that he says a personal touch is worth more than gold touch is worth more than gold packaging to him. I like seeing packaging to him. I like seeing someone's handwriting or a someone's handwriting or a little gift inside for little gift inside for instance, a small note that instance, a small note that says, enjoy your new tea-pot. says, enjoy your new tea-pot. We really like the certain pot We really like the certain pot because it pours perfectly or because it pours perfectly or whatever this gives you a whatever this gives you a direct connection to the seller direct connection to the seller and let you know a person and let you know a person actually put some love into actually put some love into your package versus your order your package versus your order just being pushed out of a just being pushed out of a machine or something and. He machine or something and. He talked about how they include a talked about how they include a little cards. With their packages, yeah, I With their packages, yeah, I mean that's like that's the on mean that's like that's the on like Reddit or you know any like Reddit or you know any other social media when someone other social media when someone gets a handwritten note. Oh my gets a handwritten note. Oh my gosh. They're like act like the gosh. They're like act like the world is in and you know that world is in and you know that they're totally loved. So you they're totally loved. So you know something as simple as know something as simple as that you can make a world of that you can make a world of difference. Are you sure the difference. Are you sure the link for the notes? It's called link for the notes? It's called I Love You pass it on. Let's I Love You pass it on. Let's see what this is. Oh isn't that see what this is. Oh isn't that with a big thing isn't that with a big thing isn't that like with the cuz I've seen like with the cuz I've seen lots of people have those cards lots of people have those cards and they were predominantly and they were predominantly Associated with like Beacon Associated with like Beacon activities and groups. it looks activities and groups. it looks like there's all types of like there's all types of initiatives free hugs. Please will be kind to one Please will be kind to one another. You really are just another. You really are just one big family. so yeah, one big family. so yeah, they're just notes of what they they're just notes of what they sell merchandise as well. sell merchandise as well. That's interesting. It's just kind of a community It's just kind of a community type thing that was just one type thing that was just one example, he was he was giving example, he was he was giving of what they do or where he got of what they do or where he got inspired for the notes that inspired for the notes that they give. Way it's simple but they give. Way it's simple but powerful way to to touch powerful way to to touch people's lives. You're really people's lives. You're really small like you know nothing small like you know nothing like a piece of paper. That's I like a piece of paper. That's I mean I think it's a little mean I think it's a little little tiny car that you want little tiny car that you want huh. That's Matters but yeah. That reminds me of probably one That reminds me of probably one of the most thoughtful things of the most thoughtful things that Eric ever done for me and that Eric ever done for me and I wanna say that story right I wanna say that story right now cuz it's a good story, you now cuz it's a good story, you know. No, I was I was flying to Saint No, I was I was flying to Saint Louis. This was probably like Louis. This was probably like three or four years ago. I was three or four years ago. I was flying in the Saint Louis and I flying in the Saint Louis and I had asked Eric for a ride from had asked Eric for a ride from the airport. It was very early the airport. It was very early in the morning and it was like in the morning and it was like six in the morning. Actually, six in the morning. Actually, you know I think you offered you know I think you offered and and and I was like are you and and and I was like are you sure it's very early. You're sure it's very early. You're like Oh no problem. you know I like Oh no problem. you know I can. I can get there's no can. I can get there's no traffic on the road. I can get traffic on the road. I can get there and he was there. I was there and he was there. I was actually kind of expecting him actually kind of expecting him to not be there cuz it was too to not be there cuz it was too early. You know I was fine early. You know I was fine taking the. Or whatever I need taking the. Or whatever I need to do and he was there and he's to do and he was there and he's got this big sign holding a big got this big sign holding a big sign You know like he's looking sign You know like he's looking for me and the text is like for me and the text is like this tiny on it. That says my this tiny on it. That says my name this. that was exactly what I needed that was exactly what I needed after a Red, a Red eye flight after a Red, a Red eye flight in the Saint Louis. so it's a in the Saint Louis. so it's a good laugh. You know the thought that You know the thought that matters even if it's something matters even if it's something silly, it does it you know it a silly, it does it you know it a big difference. That's probably the only reason That's probably the only reason why we're friends still. Eric why we're friends still. Eric Oh really. Yeah, you're right, just Yeah, you're right, just kidding. just kidding. It's a kidding. just kidding. It's a while it was. It was a good while it was. It was a good friend. move. Yeah. I mean, friend. move. Yeah. I mean, yeah, just little things like yeah, just little things like that. you know, it's it's not that. you know, it's it's not important just for friendship, important just for friendship, but even for you know but even for you know connection with your customers connection with your customers be important. But I do like the idea of kind But I do like the idea of kind of like that cheeky kind of of like that cheeky kind of hidden, you know if you know hidden, you know if you know signature that that Jeremy signature that that Jeremy brought up. That'll that'll spread that That'll that'll spread that word will spread on the Street. word will spread on the Street. I'm sure and that's the I'm sure and that's the testimony that you really want. testimony that you really want. I think you know more so than I think you know more so than just you know reviews that you just you know reviews that you put on your own website is like put on your own website is like testimony from people out in testimony from people out in the world that really look like the world that really look like that really look like they're that really look like they're you know, authentic and not you know, authentic and not paid for you know. It's like I know there's It's like I know there's certain competitions that the certain competitions that the way they identify what they way they identify what they need. Tickets is that they need. Tickets is that they purposely make a mistake or an purposely make a mistake or an error and one to one thing. error and one to one thing. It's just a little bit off and It's just a little bit off and that's how they verify whether that's how they verify whether or not the counterfeit ticket or not the counterfeit ticket or a real ticket. So if it's or a real ticket. So if it's just one tiny little hidden just one tiny little hidden thing, you know, that's it's in thing, you know, that's it's in if that's the only way to if that's the only way to really verify it. and that's really verify it. and that's that's kinda cool. huh. Tickets that's kinda cool. huh. Tickets are you talking about Jeremy I are you talking about Jeremy I know I used to do it and they know I used to do it and they they have like A million dollar they have like A million dollar winner ticket. okay, one winner ticket. okay, one message that they use to message that they use to identify the ticket is that I identify the ticket is that I like under a microscope, you like under a microscope, you would be a printing here would be a printing here something like that so something like that so typically or or other tickets typically or or other tickets or currency, they can do it or currency, they can do it that there's there's a little that there's there's a little tiny mistakes that you'd never tiny mistakes that you'd never see if you don't look for it. see if you don't look for it. Yeah. I know when people are copying I know when people are copying and aching you can sometimes and aching you can sometimes put like a little picture of put like a little picture of themselves or something very themselves or something very small. Yeah, but they're busy small. Yeah, but they're busy fun. It's like Oh it's so good. fun. It's like Oh it's so good. Yeah that's mine. But you know and then I don't know that's my I don't know that's my motivation. You say you have plenty of I You say you have plenty of I did you know, Don't you talk to did you know, Don't you talk to you guys? I I have to get off you guys? I I have to get off right now So thanks for coming right now So thanks for coming on Eric. Yeah good conversation on Eric. Yeah good conversation about the T Wear. Yeah. it's a about the T Wear. Yeah. it's a difficult subject. I have a beautiful. I don't want Yeah. So yeah, I think Maria I Yeah. So yeah, I think Maria I think you don't have to worry think you don't have to worry about your packaging so much about your packaging so much anymore. I think what's on the anymore. I think what's on the pot. It's gonna be or what's pot. It's gonna be or what's what what comes with the pot is what what comes with the pot is gonna be a lot more important gonna be a lot more important than the packaging. Yeah. yeah. than the packaging. Yeah. yeah. cuz that's what the I mean cuz that's what the I mean really scared about selling my really scared about selling my stuff and especially online stuff and especially online like I'm a sucker for packaging like I'm a sucker for packaging personally and you know there personally and you know there you have you hear a lot of you have you hear a lot of advice out there and advice out there and misinformation and things, and misinformation and things, and it's just nice to hear from it's just nice to hear from real people who purchase real real people who purchase real with teas and know. As oppose to just free to get As oppose to just free to get on that. Just make it personal in any Just make it personal in any way you know the more the way you know the more the better the more I just kind of better the more I just kind of the news like a joke, you know the news like a joke, you know it's or isn't only you really it's or isn't only you really get it or you understand it. So get it or you understand it. So if like if this is you and you if like if this is you and you can show people I don't know if can show people I don't know if you don't have to go to the you don't have to go to the people sort of custom customize people sort of custom customize a little personal signature or a little personal signature or if it should just be yours like if it should just be yours like work. Chair Which is like whatever it is Which is like whatever it is just like one tiny somewhere. just like one tiny somewhere. Or you'd like to find like a Or you'd like to find like a like a plant or anything, it's like a plant or anything, it's very very specific to where you very very specific to where you are and that you really are and that you really couldn't find all over the US couldn't find all over the US and then sort of do a small in and then sort of do a small in front of them play. You know front of them play. You know something like that, like if I something like that, like if I made a pot and then you made a pot and then you sycamore leaves and that's very sycamore leaves and that's very unique. Indiana. I'm not fairly unique. Indiana. I'm not fairly common, but it would be people common, but it would be people would associate that, would associate that, especially our home, you know especially our home, you know in the United State University in the United State University Sycamore, you know His personal Sycamore, you know His personal to you, it's personal to the to you, it's personal to the company is personal to where company is personal to where you are and I think that'll be you are and I think that'll be good. On the where you hide it on the On the where you hide it on the pie, but it's kinda like you pie, but it's kinda like you know Watermark and on a legal. know Watermark and on a legal. do you know when a tiny little do you know when a tiny little couldn't thing that verifies couldn't thing that verifies what it is. That when I first had a logo, That when I first had a logo, it was in a circular and you it was in a circular and you took a T flush and kind of put took a T flush and kind of put on the logo and wanted it to be on the logo and wanted it to be like water. So it was so like water. So it was so faintly put on that. if you faintly put on that. if you like 10 feet of the bag, you like 10 feet of the bag, you get you one foot away, you can get you one foot away, you can clear the and people like that. Well, Can we see it? do you have one Can we see it? do you have one